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We’ve had requests for copies of Jeff Freund’s actual East Vs West court documents. The file is too big to be directly cut and pasted. We can forward it in a scanned PDF-ZIP/Scan format. Just email us. Remember, we have no website, no budget and receive no donations. Maybe someone will paste it as an attachment on the AWAPPA web board for all to view.

U-Turn ......we will put it here ....send it.

I am sad to report that Southern/Republic/Northwest Captain Mike Kellogg passed away last night, July 22, 2008.

Additionally, we were notified of the passing of UAL Capt. Dick Roberts.  The service will be at 2 p.m. on Tuesday, July 29th, at East Lawn, 5757 Greenback Lane, Sacramento, CA 95841

Thought you might be interested in a little research I just finished.  I was wondering just how many UAL pilots would continue flying past 60 when the rule changed.  Using the 2007 pilots seniority list, I found that there are112 pilot's between seniority #6 and #4766 whos 60th birthday fell between
12-13-07 and 6-30-08.  I made a list of all these pilots.  A few days ago the new 2008 pilot's seniority list came out and I again checked to see if each of these pilots was on the new list.  Of these 112, all but five pilots continue to fly.  That's 95.5%!!  I don't know about the five who retired but some of those may be medical.
 
My only observation--Guess there were 107 pilots who decided not to take the PBGC up on their offer of $2200/ Mo.  The most junior pilot moved up about 140 numbers.  These were the pilots turning 60 between july, 2007 and 12-12-07 who were not so fortunate to make the cut.
 
 Best regards,

 Bob

With gas, food and everything else skyrocketing, while the PBGC continues to offer the same $2,200---can there be any other choice?
                                                                                   

Regarding the above (in addition to cringing every time I hear the act called "Fair Treatment") I cannot imagine a more monumental oxymoron in one paragraph.

 SPC: hang it up, go home, go find a corporate flying job if you still want to fly, get counseling, get over it!

In China, Pilots Fined For Quitting

In China, if quit your job as an airline pilot, you could end up owing your former employer more than $102,000. China's carriers are struggling to hold onto their crews as demand for air travel creates opportunities for pilots worldwide. Now, Air China, China Eastern Airlines and China Southern Airlines, China's largest carriers, have taken to enforcing lifetime crew contracts. And a Chinese government regulation issued in May of 2006 designed to prevent bidding wars for experienced pilots penalizes those pilots who seek opportunity abroad by allowing airlines to demand compensation for lost staff. "Everyone should follow the rules," Chen Feng, chairman of Grand China Air, told Bloomberg news. "If someone insists on leaving, he should pay the price." The situation has drawn attention from the International Federation of Air Line Pilots' Associations, which views the practice as unrelated to reality and almost like slavery. Pilots in China have begun their own work condition protests -- in March and April, crews turned around 21 flights mid-route. Others have staged hunger strikes.

As high demand in China for a limited supply of pilots continues to push salaries higher, Chen Jianguo, who is fighting his case in the courts, says, "No matter how much I earn, I should have the basic right to quit or give up the earnings." For now, the government and the Chinese airlines are trying to make sure he, and other pilots who might aspire to be like him, has the requirement to pay his former employer, as well.

I wonder if they have a word for furlough?